CITY OF SOUTH LYON
REGULAR
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
October
9, 2006
Mayor
Doyle called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
Mayor
Doyle led those present in the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag
PRESENT:
Mayor Doyle
Council
Members:
Dryer, Kivell, Kopkowski, Maida, Morelli and Wedell
Attorney
Lee
City
Clerk/Treasurer Zemke
Department
Heads: Collins, Martin & Renwick
ABSENT:
City Manager Cook
APPROVAL
OF MINUTES:
CM
10-1-06- APPROVAL OF MINUTES – SEPTEMBER 25, 2006
Motion by Dryer, supported by Wedell
To approve the minutes of the regular meeting of
September 25, 2006 as written
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVAL
OF MONTHLY BILLS:
Discussion
was held on various bills including Martin’s Hardware and South Lyon Lumber.
It was requested that Council receive a breakdown of the invoice for
Martin’s Hardware.
CM
10-2-06- APPROVAL OF MONTHLY BILLS
Motion by Kivell, supported by Kopkowski
To approve the monthly bills as presented
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVAL
OF AGENDA
Council
Member Maida questioned whether an item should be placed on the agenda for
discussion of the 2006 Concrete Street repair.
Further discussion was held on putting that item on next meeting’s
agenda.
Mayor
Doyle stated that we have received a letter of resignation from the Parks and
Recreation Commission from Maggie Kurtzwel and we have received an application
from Robert McConnell to fill that vacancy.
He stated that he would like that added to the agenda.
CM
10-3-06 – APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion by Kivell, supported by Maida
To approve the agenda as amended by adding New Business #2 for Acceptance
of resignation and
appointment to the Parks and Recreation Commission
Council
Member Kopkowski questioned whether the City Manager should be present for the
audit presentation.
Mayor Doyle stated that it is not necessary for the City Manager to be
present.
He stated that Lori Mosier, Bookkeeper as well as Les Pulver and his
staff from Plante Moran are all present.
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
CITIZENS
SUGGESTIONS:
Jeff
Potter of 1099 Stable Lane and County Commissioner provided an update on the
County budget indicating that they have had no lay-offs, no tax increases and
the budget integrity has been maintained.
They have maintained the position that grant-funded positions should
remain grant-funded.
The Circuit Courts have come forward with a request for a new Circuit
Court Judge.
Three have been authorized by the State Court, and the County is looking
at potentially funding one.
He discussed the Wireless Oakland Project with the pilot project in
Wixom.
Because of some technical aspects, the deployment County-wide has been
pushed back, but it still an on-going project.
He discussed the beginnings of the New Hudson Downtown Development
Authority project, which is funded through a partnership with Lyon Township and
Oakland County to provide a gateway to both our communities.
He thanked those who supported him in the primary election.
He stated that he is here to represent the interests of the City and the
entire district in the two years ahead if he is blessed to do so.
Mayor
Doyle stated that he has received a number of calls and there has been a lot of
talk about the Wireless Oakland project and asked if it is still moving forward
and in good shape.
Commissioner Potter stated that the reason for the delays is in part
technological sufficiency, and this is based on a commercial model and one of
promises that had been made when it started was that it was not going to cost
taxpayers a dime.
The roll-out will depend on, to some extent, level of subscribers.
We are very early on in the process. They hope that this will inject some
much needed competition.
He stated that he will try to get some additional roll-out timeline
information to Council at a future meeting.
Commissioner
Potter discussed a joint project with Salem Township, which has been put on the
“back burner” while we ascertain a response to a State grant that the City
had inquired about for that project.
These types of projects start with a good idea and create some
“buzz”. We are looking at the right time to create a master plan that would
involve the connection of Oakland and Washtenaw counties.
The majority of these projects are funded through grant, set aside
dollars from gas tax, not the taxpayers.
OLD
BUSINESS:
Presentation
of Audit, Plante & Moran for the period 7/1/05 to 6/30/06
Mr.
Les Pulver, Audit Partner as well as Brian Camiller, Audit Manager and Andy
Imdieke, Audit In-charge were present representing Plante & Moran.
Mr. Pulver stated that they could not get this done without the help of
the staff, Lori Mosier, Bookkeeper, the City Clerk/Treasurer and City Manager.
He stated that the first few pages of the document is theirs, and the
rest of it is the City’s financial statements, and although they have typed it
and printed it, it is a representation of the City’s underlining accounting
records, budget, general ledger, etc.
The report letter is addressed to the members of the City Council, and
although they work with the staff and administration, under State law and
Auditing Standards, their responsibility is to the governing body, not to the
administration.
This year, as in the past, the City has received an Unqualified Opinion
on the audit, which is the best report that the City can get from their
auditors.
The financial statements are complete and that they are accurate and done
in accordance with the generally accepted accounting principals.
This is not an automatic, there are a lot of governmental units that do
not receive an unqualified opinion.
Mr.
Imdieke reviewed the General Fund Revenues.
He stated that there are four main sources of revenue with property taxes
making up 64%, which is common with most cities and is exactly the same percent
as last year.
He further reviewed other sources of revenue.
He reviewed the General Fund Revenue trend over the last five years.
He stated that property taxes have increased slightly this year, but over
the past several years, the overall millage rate has remained the same at 13.75
mills.
One contributing factor for the raise in property tax revenue would be
the increase in the City’s taxable value.
The decrease in State and Federal sources is due to the decrease in State
Shared Revenue.
He reviewed the General Fund Expenditures, which is broken down into
three major categories, public safety, general government and community services
with public safety being the largest portion at 54%.
This, like in other communities is usually the largest portion of the
General Fund Expenditures.
This is also exactly the same as last year.
He reviewed the General Fund Expenditures Trend for the past five years.
He stated that this has remained consistent over the last five years.
In 2002, you will see “other”, which was a transfer from the General
Fund to a Land Acquisition Fund.
Other slight increases are due mainly to inflationary increases.
Mr.
Brian Camiller discussed the Comparison of General Fund, Fund Balance over the
last ten years.
He stated that General Fund revenue exceeded expenditures by
approximately $150,000.
Overall fund balance is approximately 64% of the annual budget.
Several other neighboring communities in and around the area would
struggle to maintain 30%.
The older, more established communities would struggle to have a positive
fund balance.
The fact that the City has 64% of the annual budget speaks very highly of
City Management as far as budgetary discipline and long-term planning and
foresight.
It would be in the City’s best interest to keep doing what you are
doing.
He discussed the designated fund balance.
At the beginning of the year, if you think that expenditures are going to
exceed revenue for the year, you would designate a portion of that fund balance
going forward.
As times are getting tougher in Michigan, at the beginning of each budget
year, a portion of that has been designated.
That does not mean that expenditures will actually exceed revenue.
Last year, we thought that $147,000 was going to be used out of fund
balance, but as it turned out, revenues exceeded expenditures by $150,000.
Again, this is due to budgetary discipline.
Mr. Camiller discussed the composition of property taxes.
He stated that 13.75 mills is the only portion that is the City’s, or
for a homestead property only 36% of their total bill.
For non-homestead, 24% would go to the City; the rest would go to the
other jurisdictions.
He stated that the City still has the option of raising the millage under
operating millage, but the City has chosen not to while other cities would be at
the maximum.
He discussed the Water and Sewer Fund Activity. Working Capital is the
difference between current assets and current liabilities or the ability to pay
the bills as they come due.
This year we do show a loss of Operating Income before depreciation.
On a cash-flow basis, operations are actually losing approximately
$250,000 per year.
As mentioned in the Management letter, it may be time to review the rate
structure, and maybe some changes are in order.
He discussed restricted assets which is cash held for system
improvements.
Over the last few years, we have used some of this to do maintenance on
the lines, etc.
At the end of the year, $7.3 million remained.
Mr.
Camiller stated that we have only discussed the General Fund and Water and Sewer
fund, however it is much more complex than that.
All total, City revenues are approximately $11 million for the year with
an additional $27 million that comes through the City in the form of taxes for
other governments.
He further discussed the Management Letter.
He stated that this letter is to point out if there are any problems,
suggestions on ways of improving what the City is doing or any other operational
matters.
Over the last several years, they have not had any of these items to
point out.
They do make mention of the water and sewer rates and maybe some changes
are in order.
They also use the letter to point out certain things that are going on
either at the County or State level.
State Shared Revenues continues to be on the list.
The way that State Shared Revenues is shared currently, that system
“sunsets” in 2007.
The statutory portion will not be guaranteed after that.
We will still get the Constitutional piece, and unless they change the
State Constitution, that is not going to go away.
We do not know at this time whether the State will replace that statutory
piece, but if they were not to, the City is only at risk of losing approximately
$140,000.
He further stated that as a result of having over $500,000 in Federal
Revenue relating to the Wastewater Treatment Plant, they did perform an A1-33 or
a Single Audit.
When Federal Revenues exceed $500,000 that it is required.
For the third year in a row, we have had no difficulty and found no
problems.
Mr.
Les Pulver discussed the positive fund balance.
He stated that the City would be the envy of many communities.
We have good financial management in the City which allows us to continue
to provide the services without the feeling that the City’s back is against a
wall.
Council
Member Wedell stated that the last paragraph of the management letter with
regards to the water and sewer rates, it indicates that the current rate
structure does not appear to provide for future capital improvements, yet if we
look at the Water and Sewer Enterprise fund, we can see a line item for
depreciation, which seems to indicate plans for capital improvements.
Mr. Pulver stated that the difference is that you are looking at the
financial statement where the accounting principals require depreciation to be
charged as an operating expense to reflect the wear and tear and deterioration
of the infrastructure of the utility system.
However, as near as they can determine, the rate structure does not
include much of a factor for saving money for future replacement, but has been
based on current operating costs, not taking into account for depreciation.
Most communities do not fund all or part of depreciation.
Most communities if they are going to put in new lines or a new plant,
they are going to get bonds.
Councilman Kivell discussed tap-in fees addressing capital improvement.
Mr. Pulver stated that this is the $7 million +/- within the restricted
assets.
Therefore, a good portion of the tap-in fees have been set aside, but
also the operating rates could be looked at from a cash-flow point of view.
Councilman
Kivell asked how long will the single audit be required.
Mr. Pulver stated that it is an annual determination.
We have to look at how much federal revenue the City receives on an
annual basis.
The threshold is $500,000.
Councilman
Morelli stated that last year the question was asked regarding whether legacy
fees are looked at during audit and asked if this is something that we should be
looking at.
Attorney Lee stated that our cost for health care is a fixed amount.
Mr. Pulver stated that many communities are tied into the legacy costs
because they have made a commitment to health care after retirement.
That is something that has grown substantially, more than people would
have imagined when they granted the benefit.
Accounting rules used to ignore it, but there is going to be a new
accounting rule that will be phased in a couple of years where that will have to
be measured.
The City has not agreed to any amount of material legacy costs.
Councilman
Dryer asked when the audit was complete.
Mr. Pulver stated that the date the field work was complete is the date
the report is dated, August 18th.
This would be the last date that they completed any substantial amount of
auditing work.
After that, they still have wrap-up or waiting for correspondence and
then they send it over to the City Manager for review.
Councilman Dryer asked when it was ready for presentation.
Mr. Pulver, it would have been ready approximately a week ago. The City
has chosen to include several pages within this document, which are not required
for the City’s financial report.
Pages 58-62, which is the statistical information.
Because the City issued bonds a few years ago, the City agreed to a
Continuing Disclosure requirement.
Every year you need to update information that was in the bond offering
documents and provide that to a group of repositories.
Some communities provide that separate. This is something that does take
time after the audit is completed.
Councilman Dryer stated that they barely had a chance to look at this,
and asked if there was support on demanding of the City Manager to only do this
audit presentation three weeks after Council has seen it so that they have more
time to look at it.
Council Member Kopkowski stated that she would agree.
This is a lot to look at in just three days.
Further discussion was held on delaying the presentation until after
Council has time to review the document.
Mayor Doyle stated that he would support doing that as well.
Councilman Kivell stated that Mr. Pulver has always been willing to come
back at any subsequent meetings to address any further question.
Councilman
Kivell asked what the typical expenditure proportion for public safety for other
communities.
Mr. Pulver stated that for most cities of small to medium size, it is
generally over 50%.
It is usually the most important and the most costly of all the
departments of most cities.
In some communities such as townships, it might be less due to some
shared services.
Typically, it could be from 45-65%.
Further discussion was held on public safety services being a 24-hour per
day service, etc.
Mayor
Doyle thanked Mr. Pulver and his staff for their work and thanked Lori Mosier,
Bookkeeper for her help in putting this together.
Community
Development Block Grant Program – Planning Allocation - $39,448
Mayor
Doyle stated that in the packet was a memo from the City Manager detailing the
program year.
This is informational.
It is getting more and more challenging to execute this particular grant
because of the area we can use the funds is just the northwest quadrant of the
City, and a good portion of that is Colonial Acres, which is a private
development so we cannot use the funds there.
He stated that there have been some suggestions and asked that Council
give it some thought as to what they would like to see.
We can also defer these funds until the next program year.
The
question was asked if the project was over the $39,448 if the City would have to
make up those funds.
It was stated that we would have to make up those funds unless the City
wanted to defer the funds for a couple of years.
Discussion
was held on other options that the funds could be used for other than sidewalks.
It was requested that the City Manager provide the list of acceptable
projects.
Councilman Kivell stated the area we are dealing with still has a need
for sidewalks, and we are bringing sidewalks on line every year.
Replacement
of Rooftop heating and cooling unit – Ambulance quarters
Fire
Chief Kaska stated that HVA has been remodeling the ambulance section of the
building.
While doing so, they requested that Lyon Mechanical check the rooftop
unit, which is the original from when the building was built over 20 years ago.
They found a crack and small hole in the heat exchanger.
At that time, we did request three quotes for replacement of the unit.
The low quote is from Faller Mechanical in the amount of $5,540.
Council
Member Maida stated that on the quote from Kropf, they are indicating the use of
a crane as well as a one year labor and parts warranty which is not included in
the quote from Fallert.
For the difference of $95, it would make more sense to go with someone
offering warranties.
She questioned whether Fallert simply failed to put that in their quote.
Chief Kaska stated that he will check with them, but he is sure that they
do offer the warranty.
It would require a crane for the installation regardless of which company
we selected.
Councilman Kivell stated that typically, the manufacturer would offer the
warranty for the equipment.
He further stated that we have had discussions in the past about trying
to use local vendors, and Fallert is local.
CM
10-4-06 – APPROVAL OF LOW QUOTE – ROOFTOP HEATING & COOLING UNIT
Motion by Kivell, supported by Kopkowski
To approve the quote from Fallert mechanical for the purchase and
installation of a rooftop heating and
cooling unit for the ambulance quarters in the amount of $5,540
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED (1 OPPOSED)
Renewal:
Michigan Municipal League – Liability and Property
Mayor
Doyle stated that we have the premium breakdown for liability and property
insurance.
Councilman
Wedell stated that the church building at the Historic Village is not included
in the breakdown.
City Clerk/Treasurer Zemke stated that she would check into it.
Discussion
was held on the excellent service we have received from the insurance company in
the past.
It was stated that the premium is actually $606 less than what we paid
last year.
It was stated that the cost is also based on the number of claims they
experienced in the past year.
Councilman Kivell further stated that we do not really have an
alternative.
CM
10-5-06 – INSURACE RENEWAL – MML – LIABILITY AND PROPERTY
Motion by Kivell, supported by Dryer
To approve the insurance renewal with the MML Liability and Property Pool
in the amount of $136,637
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
NEW
BUSINESS:
Detroit
Edison vs. City of South Lyon – MTT Docket No. 0261913 – Agreement
concerning acceptance of tax payment
Attorney
Lee stated that the audit letter warns about the reduction that the City might
have to suffer from the satisfaction of the Detroit Edison liability.
However, due to the conservativeness of the City, we have not collected
any money from Detroit Edison because we have a policy that we do not accept
partial payments of taxes.
Detroit Edison went to the Tax Tribunal and received a stay to preclude
us from foreclosing on them while this lawsuit was pending.
Detroit Edison sued almost every taxing authority in the State of
Michigan claiming that the methodology used in determining the formulas for
taxing personal property was over valued and they were entitled to a reduction.
A settlement has been worked out between the Assessors that the Michigan
Tax Tribunal will accept for the measure and tax of utility personal property.
The agreement we have is our acceptance of that Consent Judgment.
As a result the
City
will receive $546,000, we will not be refunding. Of that amount, $240,000 +/- is
ours, the balance will be spread out amongst the other taxing authorities for
which we collect taxes.
The
question was asked about the amount of penalty and interest if it were
collected.
Attorney Lee stated that he does not have that number, but that was
waived as part of reaching the settlement agreement.
Councilman
Dryer asked if Oakland County is going to demand any money for the legal work.
Attorney Lee stated that the Tax Tribunal is generally a discussion among
assessors, and attorneys do very little except to make sure they stay on track.
The
question was asked what would happen if we did not approve this.
Attorney Lee stated that we could go to a full trial in front of the Tax
Tribunal and spend $200,000 +/- on experts.
CM
10-6-06 – ACCEPTANCE OF AGREEMENT – DETROIT EDISON VS. CITY OF SOUTH LYON
Motion by Dryer, supported by Morelli
To accept the Consent Judgment and Agreement Concerning Acceptance of Tax
Payment with
regards to Detroit Edison Company vs. City of South Lyon
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Resignation
from Parks and Recreation Commission & Appointment
Mayor
Doyle stated that we have received a letter of resignation from Parks and
Recreation from Maggie Kurtzweil who has been serving both on the Planning
Commission and the Parks and Recreation until a replacement could be found to
fill her position on the Parks and Recreation Commission.
We need to accept that letter of resignation.
Councilman
Dryer stated that he served on the Parks and Recreation with Maggie and she has
been fabulous in that role.
CM
10-7-06 – ACCEPTANCE OF RESIGNATION – PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Motion by Dryer, supported by Morelli
To accept the resignation from the Parks and Recreation from Maggie
Kurtzweil with thanks
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Mayor
Doyle stated that on behalf of the City Council, he would like to thank Maggie
for all the work she does for the City.
She made a real difference to the Parks and Recreation.
Mayor
Doyle stated that he has received a recommendation from Randy Cortright,
Chairman of the Parks and Recreation Commission for the appointment of Robert
McConnell to fill Maggie’s position.
Mr.
McConnell stated that he lives at 1140 Vassar and has been a resident since
1997.
He has three children and many people know him from the time he spends at
McHattie Park.
He stated that he is a business owner in the City of Wixom doing custom
sheet metal fabrication and could bring to the Commission his knowledge of
structure, etc.
Mayor
Doyle stated that Mr. McConnell came highly recommended by both Maggie Kurtzweil
and Randy Cortright.
Over the years, the Parks and Recreation Commission has had a remarkable
chemistry, and it has been very important to appoint the right people to keep
that going.
CM
10-8-06 – APPOINTMENT TO PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Motion by Doyle, supported by Maida
To appoint Mr. Robert McConnell of 1140 Vassar to fill the vacancy on the
Parks and Recreation
Commission
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
COUNCIL
COMMENTS:
Councilman
Kivell stated that there is a phone and cable line that had been attached to the
top of what had been a pole on the corner of Whipple and Warren and asked when
those wires may be relocated.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that the pole is at the northwest corner of Warren
and Whipple.
Prior to them starting the project, there was a pole that was imbedded in
the curb line.
When they re-designed the intersection, they called for the pole to be
relocated and coordinated with the utility companies to get those moved.
Edison moved the large power lines.
The lines that remain are Millennium cable and perhaps telephone or the
schools fiber optic.
It is not uncommon that once the primary power is moved, you have the
secondary lines moved.
It will be moved and pole removed.
The project contract will not be closed out until that is fully
relocated.
Once the contract is signed, it becomes the contractor’s responsibility
to make sure that the relocation is complete.
Councilman
Kivell asked about the time line for paving.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that on the Whipple Street project, the first
course did get down to accommodate the Homecoming and Pumpkinfest parades.
The milling is scheduled for the local section on Tuesday.
They do expect some base repair to occur along the edge of the road.
The paving of the wearing course the whole length, the major and local
sections is scheduled for this Friday with restoration immediately after.
On Crest Lane, the sub-base has been repaired and all of the cuts of the
damaged areas have been removed and squared up. The current sub-base adjacent to
the existing road is approximately 1-1 ½ inches low.
Tomorrow the leveling course will go down along with some driveway work
and on Wednesday, the 2-inch cap is scheduled to occur.
The Orchard Ridge CDBG project is well under way.
All of the sidewalks are currently formed and the first pour is scheduled
for tomorrow.
Councilman
Kivell asked Chief Collins if he has been able to conduct the gap study on Nine
Mile.
Chief Collins stated that it is approximately 50% complete.
As far as the speed study, the data has been gathered and it is in the
analysis stage.
Council
Member Kopkowski stated that we have talked about the list of roads previously
and asked if she can receive a copy of the list.
Superintendent Renwick stated that the City Manager has the list.
Council Member Kopkowski stated that she has tried to get that list a
couple of times and indicated that she will get a copy from the City Manager.
Councilman
Dryer stated that during the Pumpkinfest Parade, he received a complaint that
since we increased the speed limit on Nine Mile to 35 miles per hour, residents
of Maple Creek are having a more difficult time getting across Nine Mile.
There are some concerns from parents on the south side of Nine Mile about
getting across.
He stated that we need to step up our discussions about a crosswalk, etc.
Mayor
Doyle stated that Pumpkinfest went wonderfully and thanked all of the volunteers
that made it a success.
He stated that he was lucky enough to be a judge at the dog show, and he
received many compliments about the whole event.
Mayor
Doyle stated that he has been requested to mention that the Census is going on
right now.
There are people going door-to-door right now and are simply requesting
the names of the individuals living in the home.
He stated that it will make a big difference for the City with funding
opportunities, liquor license, etc.
Furthermore, we do need some more volunteers.
The pay is $9 per hour plus mileage and is a temporary assignment.
Anyone interested should stop in and see Julie Zemke at City Hall.
Mayor
Doyle stated that he wanted to point out a correction.
In last week’s newspaper, there was an article that stated that Council
had made a decision to increase water and sewer rates.
We are in a discussion and there is a sense that there is a need to do
something, but nothing has been done yet.
The other point of the article that is misleading is that the City is in
financial deficit.
He stated that we have been funding operations of the new plant, but we
are taking steps to address that.
Councilman
Wedell stated that he would like to comment on the appointment process.
He stated that it seems that when we accept a resignation and make an
appointment all in the same meeting, we are limiting the opportunity for other
people to apply and would hope that in the future we would allow some gap in
time before the appointment is made.
Parks and Rec Chairman Cortright stated that they have had some turn over
on the Commission.
They had a couple vacancies for about a year and they ended up having
problems 2-3 meetings per year getting a quorum due to illness, work, etc.
We were fortunate to fill those vacancies, but there is not a list of
people volunteering for these commissions.
Maggie actually helped out the commission by doing double duty until her
replacement could be found.
Discussion was held on possibly being more proactive in seeking
volunteers for these positions.
Mayor Doyle stated that we do have an application on our website, and he
would encourage anyone interested to fill out the application and return it to
the City Clerk’s office.
Council
Member Maida stated that she would like to thank Jesse VanDeCreek for all of his
help making sure that the roads were ready for the parade, etc.
In fact, there was a trip hazard identified, and he got that taken care
of.
Also, thank you to Steve Renwick and the DPW for their work.
The Pumpkinfest was a great success and she would like to thank the City
of South Lyon, the businesses and the volunteers for the role that they played
in making it a great success.
Councilman
Morelli stated that at the MML meeting he attended, they discussed the cable
franchise issues.
He stated that they are fearful that communities are going to lose their
franchise abilities.
One thing they stressed was that every community should look at their
right of way restrictions and ordinances.
They indicated that most cities do not have any, and most of the
restrictions are within the cable agreements.
They stressed that all communities should look at this issue before these
contracts may disappear.
Attorney Lee stated that he has been in contact with the City’s Planner
indicating that this would be a proper subject at the Planning Commission.
Councilman
Morelli stated that to go on our website to look at our agendas and minutes
through Internet Explorer, you can only get about ½ the information.
If you go in through AOL, you can get more and questioned why that would
be.
City Clerk/Treasurer Zemke stated that actually, for approximately three
weeks we have had difficulty with our webhost.
Our site did go down for a period of time, and when they brought it back
up there have been some issues and we have not been able to update it until
today.
In an effort to get today’s information out, we did get tonight’s
agenda on the site.
However, in the changes that took place, we lost everything from March
until now.
Those are being restored, but it will take time.
Councilman
Morelli stated that on Whipple Street from Pontiac Trail to Hagadorn, there are
two driveway approaches that are city-owned that are still asphalt, not
concrete.
He asked why they would not also be concrete.
Furthermore, on the opposite side of the street, it looks like the
approaches were put in wrong.
He asked how the asphalt would be feathered to “nothing”.
He asked if they were done appropriately or done wrong.
It looks like the asphalt is going to go over the new curb.
He stated that is not how asphalt is supposed to be layed.
Jesse
VanDeCreek stated that the City’s policy is to replace driveways in kind.
There was asphalt existing in those locations before so asphalt goes
back.
The question was asked about the ability to withstand.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that what they put in there was a six inch deep
strength asphalt, therefore it would be sufficient for the fire trucks, etc.
Mr.
VanDeCreek stated that with regard to the asphalt overlay of the road and how
that will meld in with the driveway approaches, you do have a rolled curb or
rolled lip across the approaches.
The milling that is going to occur is going to take off 2 inches of the
existing road on the inside.
The contractor will apply a tack coat and a bond coat to the faces of the
curb.
Typically, the lip is a 1-inch lip on a type F-2 curb.
We put in a 2-inch lip on a type F-2 curb so that when the 2 inches come
up against it, it will bond to the face of it. Councilman Morelli stated that
some of them look like a bigger roll, but some do not. Mr. VanDeCreek
stated
that they probably are not all the same.
It is a retrofit project.
We do not have consistency on the street.
The only way to have that consistency is to remove all the curb and
gutter and reconstruct the whole road.
This is a maintenance style project so we do not have the ability to
re-straighten the entire road to achieve constant grade from one end to the
other.
The concern about the drainage that was brought up early on caused us to
get into the topographical data in detail and is what allowed us to lower the
structures on the south side of the road creating low spots mid way.
You cannot carry storm water from Warren all the way to Hagadorn.
The solution was to lower those catch basins and put in new storm
drainage pipe and re-work the approaches the best we could to continue to
maintain that grade.
You will also see the milling tip toward the catch basins as we approach
them and come out, again to make sure that we get the water off the road.
Councilman
Morelli asked as years go by and asphalt wears, where it adheres to the cement
as hairline cracks occur, where is the water going to go.
If it goes under the concrete as it freezes and thaws will it not crack
that.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that this could happen anywhere.
He stated that by putting in a concrete curb as a sub-base through the
approach, it will in the long term, effectively strengthen that cross section.
He further explained that on a concrete roadway, when the roadway
deteriorates, the first thing you see is a concrete repair.
When that starts to fail, you go with an asphalt overlay.
When that fails, everything comes up.
It is set low right now.
The curb is actually going to be overlaid with 2 inches of asphalt.
Councilman
Morelli questioned what kind of warranty comes with this work.
He stated that when you have snow blowers and plows going over these
areas, it is going to chip.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that we have a one-year maintenance and guarantee
bond on the project.
Councilman
Morelli asked for another project that he could go out and view.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that he is not aware of another project that is in
the same state of construction as we are.
Mr. Morelli stated that he would like to see one that was completed a
year or more ago.
Mr. VanDeCreek stated that he would get that information back to Council.
CM
10-9-06 – ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Wedell, supported by Morelli
To adjourn the meeting at 9:04 p.m.
VOTE:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Respectfully
Submitted,
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John
Doyle, Jr.
Julie C. Zemke
Mayor
City Clerk/Treasurer